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- Guest
- Stephen Haney
- Published
- Jan 19, 2026
- Length
- 49 min
- Views when added
- 9,642
- Channel subscribers
- 69,500
Chapters from YouTube
- Stephen Haney founded Paper, a new design tool. He talks with Ridd, host of Dive Club, a show for designers.
- In recent months he's asked designers at Atlassian, Shopify, Notion and others how they really use AI.
- People on Twitter say design tools are dead. Stephen says what companies do doesn't necessarily match that.
- Companies pretty much all do the same thing, he finds. They make clickable AI prototypes from app copies.
- Figma is the main design tool today. Claude Code and Cursor are AI tools that write code.
- He says Paper is maybe a little biased toward craft, and this research is shaping its product plans.
What they say
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Stephen sees design and engineering as different jobs, even with AI.
AI's clear win for designers is prototypes that click and respond.
Big companies now require AI from designers, who work on a copy of the app.
At big companies, designers still hand specs to engineers instead of shipping code.
Prototyping with AI brings new problems, and nobody is sure it's faster.
Ridd thinks popular web tools will make teams work very differently, and Stephen agrees.
Stephen expects one central AI coding tool, with a drawing canvas as one way in.
Stephen's advice is to play with these tools without fearing you're behind.
If you only watch 12 min
Best if you're a designer wondering which AI skills to learn.
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